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Per the manual, you want to get the car up to operating temperature, then turn the engine off and wait at least 5 minutes to check the oil level.

When I check mine in the morning, after the car has sat overnight, it's slightly below the top hole. When I check it the way the manual states, it hits the hole exactly.

I'm curious if others have noticed this as well?
 

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I've read about this method as well. I'm not sure how the reaching operating temp then waiting at least 5 minutes method vs checking cold is any different. If anything, the cold level is usually slightly higher.

In any event, I changed the oil today. 4.8 qts fills it halfway up the dipstick. So I went ahead and added the addl 6 oz for a total of 5 qts, which didn't move the needle very much. Went with Mazda oil. Very straightforward oil change. Will swap it out again at 10k.
 

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It is weird. Hot level in this car is definitely higher. I think it's due to thermal expansion of the oil when hot.

I've read that in the 2.5L, it takes 5-5.2 qts to hit the top fill hole on the dipstick. Mazda may have recommended 4.8 due to the oil level rising a bit when hot, which is maybe why they recommend that method in the manual. I've always checked the oil level cold.
 

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I've read about this method as well. I'm not sure how the reaching operating temp then waiting at least 5 minutes method vs checking cold is any different. If anything, the cold level is usually slightly higher.

In any event, I changed the oil today. 4.8 qts fills it halfway up the dipstick. So I went ahead and added the addl 6 oz for a total of 5 qts, which didn't move the needle very much. Went with Mazda oil. Very straightforward oil change. Will swap it out again at 10k.
Did the 5qts bring it to the top hole? I noticed the same. I put in 4.8 and its at the half way mark.
 

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It is weird. Hot level in this car is definitely higher. I think it's due to thermal expansion of the oil when hot.

I've read that in the 2.5L, it takes 5-5.2 qts to hit the top fill hole on the dipstick. Mazda may have recommended 4.8 due to the oil level rising a bit when hot, which is maybe why they recommend that method in the manual. I've always checked the oil level cold.
I have issues reading the dipstick when oil is hot even after wiping the dipstick before check, Seems like the oil rises in the dipstick guide (overfilled by factory ?)
Maybe oil check cold the way to go
 

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Per the manual, you want to get the car up to operating temperature, then turn the engine off and wait at least 5 minutes to check the oil level.

When I check mine in the morning, after the car has sat overnight, it's slightly below the top hole. When I check it the way the manual states, it hits the hole exactly.

I'm curious if others have noticed this as well?
Not quite the same but similar.

In a former life I was a helicopter engineer in the military. When topping up the oil levels of the gas turbine engines when they were cold we always used to fill the tank to 0.5 of a litre below the full mark on the dipstick. If you filled it to full, when the engine came up to operating temperature it would dump some of the oil out of the engine. This was caused by the thermal expansion of the oil, effectively causing the oil tank to be overfilled by 0.5 of a litre. I imagine that a similar thing happens to the engine oil in our cars. Probably not on the same scale, but if you overfill your car engine with oil it has to go somewhere when it expands.
 

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I don't have a good flat spot to check at home. I'm going to go somewhere and check on the level and then check again on the driveway slope and see where my "at home" full level is.
 

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I don't have a good flat spot to check at home. I'm going to go somewhere and check on the level and then check again on the driveway slope and see where my "at home" full level is.
exactly this. On my previous car, the difference between the oil level shown on the dipstick when the car was on the flat and on my sloping drive was approximately halfway between the top and bottom marks.
 

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Thread bump. So I was checking the oil several times during the last few days (car is now at 6.700 km) and the level was different every time I checked. At cold, the level was either exactly at the top hole or it was 3/4 between the top and bottom hole. Both are fine, but I found that checking the oil after having driven the car is a no-go. I came home from work and waited 15 mins after parking the car (flat surface), then went to check and the oil on the dipstick was all over the place. I go back 5 hours later to check again, it's at 3/4.

I know about the "turn the car on to normal operating temperature then wait 5 mins", so I waited for 15 mins and it was a messy read. Is it best to actually just turn the engine on, wait around stationary until it heats up, then turn it off, wait a little and check? It seems like checking after a drive, even if you wait 15 mins, doesn't work.

Also, I found that the color on the dipstick is not always the same. To be more precise, the amount of oil that is amber-colored isn't the same every time I check. I assume this is due to additives and i guess we will have different colors depending on what part of the world we are in.

Just wanted to share, in case others have similar experiences.

Also, since I'm posting about oil I'll throw this in, even though the thread isn't focused on it: the oil monitor in the Vehicle Monitor says 12.000 km until oil change (now at nearly 7.000 kms). I assume this is an intelligent system as when I picked the car up with 3 kms, it said 20.000 km until oil change, then after a little while it changed that to 18.000 kms so I assumed it adjusted to my particular driving condiitions, the weather etc. How reliable have you found the oil monitor system?

I'm asking because even thought the manual says 20.000 km intervals and the oil monitor suggests 18.000 kms, the fact is that my car was manufactured in February 2021 and even though I took delivery in September, it will soon be one year that the oil has been sitting in there, as I doubt they swapped it out for me before delivery. How does oil hold up over time, considering the car wasn't driven at all?
 
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