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Mazda is slowly shifting focus more towards the CX-30 so if you're comparing these two, forget the CX-3. Its bad enough that they just reduced the amount of options potential CX-3 owners can choose from. With this change the current CX-3 is a better value compared to the model year before it but do realize that over time the CX-30 will shape up to be a better buy, with more support.
 

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Mazda is slowly shifting focus more towards the CX-30 so if you're comparing these two, forget the CX-3. Its bad enough that they just reduced the amount of options potential CX-3 owners can choose from. With this change the current CX-3 is a better value compared to the model year before it but do realize that over time the CX-30 will shape up to be a better buy, with more support.
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Mazda is slowly shifting focus more towards the CX-30 so if you're comparing these two, forget the CX-3. Its bad enough that they just reduced the amount of options potential CX-3 owners can choose from. With this change the current CX-3 is a better value compared to the model year before it but do realize that over time the CX-30 will shape up to be a better buy, with more support.


my focus has changed.. ive just px'd my cx3 and ordered a Cx30 gt Sport..lol
 

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The inevitable has happened which to no one's surprise, comes after the CX30 launched:

Mazda CX-3 Crossover Temporarily Dropped From The UK
Mazda is no longer offering the CX-3 in the United Kingdom, where the subcompact crossover has been dropped from the price lists on the brand’s official website.

The car was reportedly removed before the year’s end, not long after the CX-30 went on sale, and was discovered by Autocar. The publication reached out to a spokesperson, who said the decision is “for the moment, not forever”, and did not comment on the reason behind this action. We also contacted Mazda and we will tell you what their answer is as soon as we hear back from them.

One possibility of removing the CX-3 and having only remaining dealer lot models to satisfy the needs of new car buyers is perhaps linked to a future update. The 2020 or 2021 model year could return in a few months, packing more efficient powertrains and perhaps other changes.
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This seems to fall in line with a previous report claiming that on this side of the pond, the 2020 CX-3 will ditch all trim levels bar one, the Sport, although it will get more equipment and an inevitable price bump. This is likely an attempt to bridge the gap between the small crossover and new CX-30, yet it could push some customers towards the latter, which is a slightly larger and more powerful.

Unveiled at the end of 2014, at the Los Angeles Auto Show, the CX-3 is a Nissan Juke, Renault Captur, Peugeot 2008, Opel/Vauxhall Mokka X, Hyundai Kona and Volkswagen T-Cross rival. It has the company’s Kodo design language, like the Mazda2, on which it is based, and is offered with an assortment of engines, in front- and all-wheel drive.
 

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I was a bit late to the game with deciding to try a Crossover, as I would have preferred a new CX-3 in a good trim level version over a CX-30. The 2019 top trim version CX-3 looked better than any trim CX-30 IMO. But, it seems like all decent subcompacts have disappeared from the U.S. market, & various compacts are now the new "subcompacts" here.

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I was a bit late to the game with deciding to try a Crossover, as I would have preferred a new CX-3 in a good trim level version over a CX-30. The 2019 top trim version CX-3 looked better than any trim CX-30 IMO. But, it seems like all decent subcompacts have disappeared from the U.S. market, & various compacts are now the new "subcompacts" here.
Hmmm…a 2.0-liter, budget-priced, subcompact SUV based on the Mazda 2 (sold in the USA as the “Toyota Yaris”) and designed using the previous-generation Kodo design language? If you like a smaller, cheaper car better than the model the forum is about, then you have the freedom to so choose. Buying a car based solely on its looks is never a wise move though. Instead, it makes far more sense to understand how an auto ranks among its peers. Also, to have a grasp of the mechanical underpinnings which make up the platform (Mazda 2 platform vs 4th-gen Mazda 3 platform with the option for the CX-9’s lovely turbo engine). After many months of deafening silence in this thread, it’s likely that you’re mostly alone in your CX-3 preference.
 

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Hmmm…a 2.0-liter, budget-priced, subcompact SUV based on the Mazda 2 (sold in the USA as the “Toyota Yaris”) and designed using the previous-generation Kodo design language? If you like a smaller, cheaper car better than the model the forum is about, then you have the freedom to so choose. Buying a car based solely on its looks is never a wise move though. Instead, it makes far more sense to understand how an auto ranks among its peers. Also, to have a grasp of the mechanical underpinnings which make up the platform (Mazda 2 platform vs 4th-gen Mazda 3 platform with the option for the CX-9’s lovely turbo engine). After many months of deafening silence in this thread, it’s likely that you’re mostly alone in your CX-3 preference.
Well, the CX-3 has been dead since 2019 model year in the USA, since Mazda reduced it to one very basic trim level in 2020 & then discontinued it shortly thereafter. Yes, I like subcompacts (@ certain good trim levels) & loved my 5-MT 2015-refreshed Yaris SE hatch w/added TRD rear sway bar (the Yaris wasn't a Mazda2 during that time) more than I have cars that have cost $10K+ more in the past. People like what they like, & just because someone might review something good or bad, better or inferior, doesn't mean that I agree with them. It's all subjective from a user perspective. Take Turbo's, for example, some people love them. I would never buy/want one & see them as MPG-hobbling HP overkill for someone who fancies themselves a street racer & enjoys racing from one red light to the next - & also problem waiting to happen (increased oil consumption being one potential issue). Eye of the beholder. To each their own.
 

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Take Turbo's, for example, some people love them. I would never buy/want one & see them as MPG-hobbling HP overkill for someone who fancies themselves a street racer & enjoys racing from one red light to the next - & also problem waiting to happen (increased oil consumption being one potential issue). Eye of the beholder. To each their own.
Thanks for your considered reply. In the 1990's, I drove a peaky, 2.0-liter, 4-cylinder turbo on front-wheel drive (with massive torque steer). Definitely a "street racer" kind of car and fun in it's own way but it was far from being mature, premium, or luxurious. I've tended to stay away from turbos since for the reasons you described.

Turbo's have come a long way in the automotive mainstream since then. Back in 2016, Volvo switched from their modular engines (I4, I5, and I6) to their Volvo Engine Petrol 4 (VEP4) in T2 thru T5 single-turbo variants. The T6 version has a turbo and a supercharger while the T8 engine configuration has a turbo, a supercharger, AND an electric motor assist. Volvo's point being having a single engine design scaled in power from smaller vehicles up to their largest luxury SUV. As we all know, Mazda similarly used their 2.5-liter SkyActiv-G engine adding a turbo for it's use in their large CX-9 three-row SUV in lieu of having a V6 option like many rivals. Obviously, Volvos and the CX-9 aren't street racer cars so it's more a matter of how much power a given vehicle needs to suit a near-luxury buyer. To me, the 2.5-liter turbo feels less like a four-cylinder than it feels like a smooth and powerful V6. Having reached retirement age, I don't own a turbo to race from light-to-light but rather to provide a smooth and powerful luxury-car feel. This comes after six years of driving a 2.0-liter Mazda 3 hatch (2016 i-Touring) - a car I'm glad to keep in the family by giving it to my teenage son.

Surprisingly, and to your point, one of Honda's most used engines is their EarthDreams L15B/C 1.5-liter turbo which is notorious for oil dilution and turbo failure (which can happen in as little as 40,000 miles - so much for the myth of Honda reliability). The Honda we see today in the wake of the 2007 Global Financial Crisis (GFC) isn't the same company it was before 2007. I was a long-time Honda fan until after the GFC whereupon I switched to being a huge fan of the Mazda brand of products instead, especially after Mazda fully detangled itself from Ford Motor Company in 2015.

RepairPal.com rates the Mazda CX-9 first place out of 14 full-size SUVs for reliability. I've looked and I'm unaware of any major issues with Mazda's 2.5-Liter turbo engine other than this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) related to a changed valve stem seal in 2021 model-year (an issue I hope was corrected for 2022):

Mazda Oil Consumption TSB Turbo Engines
Components: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING, TIRES, ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
NHTSA ID Number: 10202685
Manufacturer Communication Number: 01-012-21-3832

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MAKE MODEL YEAR
MAZDA CX-30 2021
MAZDA CX-5 2021
MAZDA CX-9 2021
MAZDA MAZDA3 2021
MAZDA MAZDA6 2021


Summary
Some vehicles may have a LOW ENGINE OIL LEVEL warning message and a CHECK ENGINE light illuminated in the instrument cluster, along with DTC P250F:00 stored in memory. DTC P250F:00 - Engine oil level signal: engine oil level low. Upon inspecting the engine oil level, the level is found to be low and there doesn't appear to be any trace of oil leakage in the engine compartment. This concern usually occurs when the mileage reaches approximately 3,100 - 4,700 miles (5,000 - 7,500km) and may also occur again after replacing or topping off the engine oil. The root cause of this concern has not been identified yet, therefore a repair procedure will be announced at a later date. Since this issue has been reported after a valve stem seal modification, it is very likely that valve stem seal damage is causing oil to leak into the combustion chamber.
 
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