[steve67]

No new models from Mazda and the new engine hasn't got the 'X factor' according to sales...
When I drove the X and g engines ..there wasn't £1800 worth of power..

Why Is No One Buying Mazda's Amazing New Engine?

With the launch of the new Mazda 3 and Mazda CX-30, 2019 was a busy year for Mazda. Looking ahead, however, the next few years are going to be comparatively quiet for the Japanese manufacturer. According to a report by Nikkei Asian Report, Mazda will face some significant challenges as no major...

carbuzz.com

 

[Maznut]

Mazda 6 turbo: sales bust
New 3; sales bust
sky X ; sales bust
How long can this keep up?
Any one with early sales info on the 30?

 

[steve67]

From another thread ... I think it's up... Taking the sales from the 3 and cx5...

 

[conwelpic]

Any one with early sales info on the 30?

check out this ongoing thread

Mazda sales - Canada/US

US - November 2019 vs Nov 2018 Mazda 3: 3,579 (3,974) Mazda 6: 1,514 (1,984) CX-3: 1,654 (988) CX-30: 31 (n/a) CX-5: 14,139 (10,882) CX-9: 2,988 (2,385) MX-5 Miata: 469 (447) Canada - November 2019 vs Nov 2018 Mazda 3: 1,414 (1,913) Mazda 6: 121 (91) CX-3: 858 (747) CX-30: n/a...

www.cx30talk.com

 

[carbonized]

Mazda doesn't even offer the X engine over here.

 

[steve67]

You're not missing anything special..

 

[Maznut]

You're not missing anything special..

Yes, from all accounts it's weaker than our 2.5 and over 3 grand more expensive . Fuel savings could not possibly recoupe the greater up front cost. What's the point?

 

[steve67]

Exactly.....even against our uk 'G' spec the 'x' was just not worth it..not on our heavily congested roads..

 

[mrkjd]

For a bit of perspective I am in the UK and have the X with auto box (which also generally doesn't garner great comments from reviewers).

We are getting about 45mpg on a motorway and 42mpg around town with a very light foot keeping revs below 2k. 39-40mpg more aggressive "normal" driving and 35mpg in Sport Mode giving it some. These on an engine with 1500 miles now on it. I think these figures are disappointing in terms of the "diesel like" economy touted but pretty good for a strong GTI -like engine. So I have to agree that the X is not strictly worth the extra cost.

However I still went for one because I felt the extra oomph with the auto box and I feel to get the most from iStop / Radar Cruise etc an Auto box is the way to go. The car is actually very responsive but requires a commitment to push up the revs to do that which negates the economy advantages fully so I can see how it would not come across favourably against a smaller supercharged engine of its competitors and makes it rather jekel & hyde.

So I'm not surprised its not doing that well but I still think its maybe worth having to get the most out of the car in the same way that the top spec models may not be the best bang-for-buck but who doesn't like a gizmo! You pays yer money.......

 

[steve67]

We went for the G engine.. for my wife's driving it's fine.. I hardly drive it . It's done 450 miles and we're getting 38-40 driving on local roads to and from work...



... the day before I picked my CX30 122 g engine up I found out they are releasing a 150 engine.. this is done via a software update to take it up to 150... My dealership is chasing Mazda to see if and a software update can be done to the existing 122 engine's that have been sold.

I have also contacted Mazda directly.

 

[steve67]

And Mazda replied very quickly......
And the UK is left out again...
I blame Brexit ??


Thank you for the email correspondence and I hope the new Mazda CX-30 is being enjoyed.



I have spoken to our Brand Team who work closely with the teams over at Mazda Corporation in Japan for assistance in answering this question as it was not a specification I was aware of.



I can confirm Mazda Dealerships throughout Europe are offering this additional specification and it is not something Mazda dealerships in the UK will look to offer. This will mean throughout certain parts of Europe, a 122, 150 and 181ps versions will be available. All decisions are made based on market research and there has been no demand for a powertrain between the 122ps Skyactiv-G and the 181ps Skyactiv-X models. At this stage there are no plans to change the model line-up.



I hope this helps in answering the question and if there is anything else I can do to help in the future, please feel free to reply to this email or call me on 03457 484848.



Yours Sincerely



Stuart Stringer

Customer Relations Manager

 

[bruceboss]

However I still went for one because I felt the extra oomph with the auto box and I feel to get the most from iStop / Radar Cruise etc an Auto box is the way to go.

That's the reason I went for the Skyactiv X Tech Automatic version

 

[Habu]

I bought my wife an auto CX-30 G engine. It's her first auto, which she loves. I felt she didn't need the X although you do get an electric sunroof thrown in and the option of stone leather, the latter of which would have been nice. I test drove the G auto and the X manual and felt that there wasn't much more torque in the X so rather than buying her an X engined GT Sport I bought her a G engined GT Sport Tech. I definitely know she appreciates the extra stuff in the Tech.

 

[mrkjd]

I test drove the G auto and feel the X suits the auto box much more. Whilst I’m not sure the X is worth the premium on manuals I think it is for the auto. The general gearing for economy and lack of low down torque mean you need to shift down a lot with a manual to make progress and that isn’t translated to the gearing on the auto box which seems happier with the engine characteristics and sport mode really is sporty!

Reviewers quite rightly rave about Mazda manuals ( we had an MX5) but seem to use that to dis the auto. I don’t think the auto is stand out like the manual but neither is it poor. Sort of equal (but different) to the Santa Fe we had and much better than Toyota and Subaru CVT efforts we’ve drove.

 

[steve67]

Just re read my post.....

We are really pleased with our choice of car. My gripe was that I had read the remapped engine was being offered shortly after the cx30 was released and before ordered cars has been handed over...
I actually got to drive our cx30 for the first time in 3 weeks last weekend...
Can't fault it...well the only fault bis I don't get behind the wheel enough..?

 

[mrkjd]

We are extremely pleased but are discovering the odd quirk eg the car doesn’t seem to auto lock when you walk away from it if you got out and went in the boot first. Or maybe it’s us....!
I think one of the features I’m most impressed with are the adaptive headlights. First car we’ve had with these but I’ve read a lot about various models not dipping etc. The Mazda igets it 99% right and wow - they are bright!

 

[steve67]

We are extremely pleased but are discovering the odd quirk eg the car doesn’t seem to auto lock when you walk away from it if you got out and went in the boot first. Or maybe it’s us....!
I think one of the features I’m most impressed with are the adaptive headlights. First car we’ve had with these but I’ve read a lot about various models not dipping etc. The Mazda igets it 99% right and wow - they are bright!

Press the lock button on the boot.. the car locks and boot closes..also the driver's door has to be closed last to auto lock/ walkaway.. that's what we have found..
Adaptive headlight's are next level ..