[Trickster]

Just pointing this out, but in your MyMazda app, if you have assigned a dealer as your preferred dealer, then click the menu in upper right corner, click My Mazda, then click My Services, then click Service Offers, then if available, service specials at your dealer will show. Mine has oil change, alignment, brake service specials, etc. I’m sure some dealers are more generous than others, but may be worth checking out.

Did not know that.
Thanks.

 

[conwelpic]

Hmmm….so no oil and filter change?
Just inspections.
Cash grab in my opinion.

it would help if they actually posted the requirement for the 16k km /12 month service and not just the 8k km

 

[Jon]

My local Mazda dealer thanks you for defending their $144 oil change with a lube kid.
Having first hand experience with “piece work” in dealerships, being charged for 3 or 4 hours labor for a job done in half that time has never sat well with me. I know techs that can bill for 16+ hours a day for a 8 hour shift. I also know that the flat rates differ from what a dealership charges customers and what warranty work rates are paid to the dealer. Most techs would rather not do warranty work over flat rate non warranty work. Manufacturers engineers set the flat rate for jobs and it is usually not realistic to the actual time spent. Perhaps my terminology of “ripped off” was harsh. Maybe the term should have been “taken advantage of”. There is a reason many refer to them as stealerships.😏

Ripped off is the correct terminology for sure. Anyone who defends this behavior is actually ripping you off.

My local Mazda dealer thanks you for defending their $144 oil change with a lube kid.
Having first hand experience with “piece work” in dealerships, being charged for 3 or 4 hours labor for a job done in half that time has never sat well with me. I know techs that can bill for 16+ hours a day for a 8 hour shift. I also know that the flat rates differ from what a dealership charges customers and what warranty work rates are paid to the dealer. Most techs would rather not do warranty work over flat rate non warranty work. Manufacturers engineers set the flat rate for jobs and it is usually not realistic to the actual time spent. Perhaps my terminology of “ripped off” was harsh. Maybe the term should have been “taken advantage of”. There is a reason many refer to them as stealerships.😏

I see you side stepped my response to your complaint about junior techs. Dealerships charging 8 hours for a 4 hour job is a different matter.

 

[Trickster]

I see you side stepped my response to your complaint about junior techs. Dealerships charging 8 hours for a 4 hour job is a different matter.

Not trying to sidestep anything.
Just stating that charging full labor rates for a guy working on my car thats making $18-20 hour who is just a lube guy.
He may not even be enrolled as an apprentice, so there is not justification for me to pay the full shop rate on an oil change.
Yes I did add into my conversation about flat rates vs actual time. My apologies for expanding on my gripes of dealership service irregularities.
When I pick up my vehicle after a simple oil change and there are oily finger prints left on the hood, I tend to get a bit riled up about dealership service departments.
That was not worth the full hourly rate I was charged, at least the engine bay was still clean and no leaks on my driveway.😏

 

[Yellowlt4]

I see you side stepped my response to your complaint about junior techs. Dealerships charging 8 hours for a 4 hour job is a different matter.

Didn't side step anything, that's a very weak excuse for ripping customers off.

 

[SDH]

From the 2022 USA manual....

Every maintenance must be done when the display/wrench indication comes on. The display/wrench indication will come on before reaching the maximum interval of 16,000 km (10,000 miles), or 12 months (after the previous maintenance).

If you drive your vehicle under any of the following conditions, follow the Severe Driving Scheduled Maintenance and replace the engine oil and filter every 8,000 km (5,000 miles) or 6 months, whichever comes first.

Otherwise, follow the Normal Driving Scheduled Maintenance intervals.

1. The vehicle is idled for long periods or driven at low speeds, such as with police cars, taxis, or driver's education school car.
2. Driving under dusty conditions.
3. Driving for long periods in cold temperatures or driving regularly for short distances only.
4. Driving under extremely high temperature conditions.
5. Driving continuously in mountainous regions.

Seems like most people easily fall under the severe driving category, but I wonder how many don't follow the severe driving category maintenance schedule because the automakers push a "normal driving" maintenance schedule (for advertising/marketing & "owner convenience" reasons) that really only applies to very few. Another case of buyer/consumer beware & be properly educated/informed (good luck with that). But again, automakers only really care about the vehicle lasting the warranty period without issues & aren't concerned with any added wear & tear that may cause earlier problems/failures beyond that warranty period. They want you in a new vehicle every 3-5 years & good luck to whoever buys those used cars (which they can then profit off of via all the added repairs/parts they will need). You also have owners who know they won't be in that vehicle longer-term, so figure any problems eventually arising from the bare-bones maintenance needed to keep the vehicle in OEM warranty graces is fine, & the vehicle will be someone else's problem after that.

 

[OldFart]

Seems like most people easily fall under the severe driving category, but I wonder how many don't follow the severe driving category maintenance schedule because the automakers push a "normal driving" maintenance schedule (for advertising/marketing & "owner convenience" reasons) that really only applies to very few. Another case of buyer/consumer beware & be properly educated/informed (good luck with that). But again, automakers only really care about the vehicle lasting the warranty period without issues & aren't concerned with any added wear & tear that may cause earlier problems/failures beyond that warranty period. They want you in a new vehicle every 3-5 years & good luck to whoever buys those used cars (which they can then profit off of via all the added repairs/parts they will need). You also have owners who know they won't be in that vehicle longer-term, so figure any problems eventually arising from the bare-bones maintenance needed to keep the vehicle in the warranty graces if fine, & the vehicle will be someone else's problem after that.

Agree. Plan to keep mine 10-ish years, so oil/filter every 5K / 6months (whichever comes first) will be my go-to.

Had the first done at 1.5K just to be on the safe side.

Now keeping my fingers crossed I have the good valve seals in my turbo.

 

[30pilot]

Agree. Plan to keep mine 10-ish years, so oil/filter every 5K / 6months (whichever comes first) will be my go-to.

Had the first done at 1.5K just to be on the safe side.

Now keeping my fingers crossed I have to good valve seals in my turbo.

I did my first oil and filter change at 82o miles and scheduled the same at 5,000 miles total. Until automotive techs and their employers and required to sign a log that in case of negligence, and or fraud, intentional omissions among other things, as are aircraft techs, I will to continue to change my own oil and filters, fluid checks and fills and all other general maintenance as I am able.

 

[latinuomo67]

$95.80 US dollars for synthetic oil change and filter.

 

[30pilot]

$95.80 US dollars for synthetic oil change and filter.

Even if I do my own oil and filter, I pay 9.99, $10 per quart for 6 quarts of Amsoil and $15 for the NAPA gold filter. $75, though I don"t use the entire 6th quart, just 8 oz of it. Hardly seems worth the labor except I know what's in it and that it's done right. Local Ford stealership did an oil change for our widowed neighbor who supplied the oil, Amsoil, and Mobil one filter. From the color on the dipstick it appears they used bulk oil and the filter was a generic black filter, no name.

 

[Trickster]

I know things are different in America with that Magnusson? Act, which is great, BUT
here in the Great White North you never know when you might encounter a dickhead Service Manager that would try to deny an engine warranty claim because you used an aftermarket oil filter. Regardless even if it’s rated better, here you could get grief. Thats why I run OEM filters under warranty.
And I am still pissed that the lube kid left oil smudges on the hood. One day I will just “let it go”😳

 

[OldFart]

And I am still pissed that the lube kid left oil smudges on the hood. One day I will just “let it go”😳

Serenity Now. Serenity Now.

 

[30pilot]

I know things are different in America with that Magnusson? Act, which is great, BUT
here in the Great White North you never know when you might encounter a dickhead Service Manager that would try to deny an engine warranty claim because you used an aftermarket oil filter. Regardless even if it’s rated better, here you could get grief. Thats why I run OEM filters under warranty.
And I am still pissed that the lube kid left oil smudges on the hood. One day I will just “let it go”😳

On his head?

 

[30pilot]

I know things are different in America with that Magnusson? Act, which is great, BUT
here in the Great White North you never know when you might encounter a dickhead Service Manager that would try to deny an engine warranty claim because you used an aftermarket oil filter. Regardless even if it’s rated better, here you could get grief. Thats why I run OEM filters under warranty.
And I am still pissed that the lube kid left oil smudges on the hood. One day I will just “let it go”😳

You can't do your own general maintenance?

 

[Trickster]

On his head?

What?

 

[Trickster]

You can't do your own general maintenance?

Yes I can. First ones free.
Anything else?

 

[30pilot]

What?

..."let it go"...on his head

Yes I can. First ones free.
Anything else?

I've heard of some manufacturers, in some countries, negating a warranty for not having maintenance done by their dealers. I do not know what maintenance they allow if any. We cannot do very much maintenance on aircraft the FFA will allow, oil filter, and fluids. I wonder if that is the same situation for some autos while under warranty.

 

[Paddler]

Just had my very first service work done on a Mazda.
On my wife’s 22 M3 hatch. Synthetic oil change and filter = $144 CDN.
3200 kms, but the vehicle is six months old and we do our changes twice a year because we never
put more than 10,000 kms annually.
If my hoist didn’t have a ton of crap on it for winter storage, I would have done it myself to save a few bucks.
Next time.

My dealer sold me something referred to as C.A.P for $226 CDN which covers the cost of first two warranty services. Had first one done which is merely an inspection and invoice totalled $59.60 (didn’t have to pay). So that leaves $166 to cover second service which includes inspection and oil change. If inspection is $60, then oil change is $106. Seems a bit pricey to me but that C.A.P was part of the sales agreement. Everyone has their hands in your pockets.....

 

[JohnG]

Even if I do my own oil and filter, I pay 9.99, $10 per quart for 6 quarts of Amsoil and $15 for the NAPA gold filter.
$75, though I don"t use the entire 6th quart, just 8 oz of it. Hardly seems worth the labor except I know what's in it and that it's done right.

Which Amsoil product is approved by Mazda for use in their vehicles?

 

[JohnG]

I did my first oil and filter change at 82o miles and scheduled the same at 5,000 miles total. Until automotive techs and their employers and required to sign a log that in case of negligence, and or fraud, intentional omissions among other things, as are aircraft techs, I will to continue to change my own oil and filters, fluid checks and fills and all other general maintenance as I am able.

I'm good with this. Let's go with all of the same practices and requirements for aircraft technicians in our automotive world. Then there would also be no DIY world for automobile professional technicians to have to compete with, and to think that people on this board are complaining about prices now. LOL!!

FWIW you should see what "consumers" say about the pricing for getting their sub-compact tractors serviced. Notice these are the labor fees, the parts and fluids are additional. This also does not include pick-up and delivery fees. Service Specials - Tri County Equipment